@chimeforest, awesome work, so this is the worker thingy that can move stuff? AAAWWEEESOOOMME
fear not⦠you certainly seem to be on the right track with the mod! ⦠⦠⦠no pressure, of courseā¦
wow, that dialogue sounds fairly reminiscent of a typical conversation between myself and @Geoffers747 ⦠i leave it to you all to decide who says whatā¦
It could be! He currently doesnāt work(I guess thatās part of the joke =P)
He just sorta stands there looking cute, occasionally flapping itās arms or looking at you sideways.
Iām not sure if I like the model⦠but itās growing on me, still, Iām going to see what else I can make.
of course not ^^;
Have you made robots craftable? Like the first could be wooden automatons. Then stone, metal, stardust, etc.
I have made them craftable after a sort. Itās not in the public release yet because I need to work out some of the coding and animations still. Right now the current progression will be stone golem ==> metal golem ==> fully fledged robo-citizen. Though I do like the sound of stardustā¦
Just noticed that I hadnāt noticed this thread. So to comment on some of the stuff mentioned here.
First note: Microchips and most computer parts are completely impossible in the setting as they require a level of technology that basically requires modern infrastructure and robots even more so.
Tiers of replication of class could work, go with the magic/machine hybrid. a race of sapient golems though is much more believable. They might start by simple golems of stone or wood that can only access basic classes but after improvements they might get more refined golems that can get more advanced classes and are made of things like metal or magic crystals. Let them upgrade themselves as it progresses to avoid the need to dispose of units. Use things like wood as a rudimentary fuel, the extraction of energy from food is actually very complex. An alternative system would be have the robo-replicator class focus on building the magic robot cores and basic parts and have different classes for advanced parts.
Use a different set of classes entirely as a lot of the normal ones will be useless to golems/robots. They donāt need clothes or chairs or anything like that so most of the benefit from them will be missing. Focus the classes more on infrastructure and parts development, maybe you could have the carpenterās specialize in rudimentary wood based upgrades, things like a wooden base to allow them to float on water or bows or something.
The attributes look cool, just to suggest some alternative ideas in case they inspire something maybe something like Hardware instead of Hull as a more general form that sounds like it would apply to things like chainsaw arms instead of just armour. Maybe a background of binary for the software? or play up the magic aspect more and have it be a bunch of made up runes. As for the third what if you do something more magic related? Youāve got hardware and software as body and mind replacements and you did say they were part magical, giving them a stat to approximate spirit that is more magical aligned could help with that.
Iām perfectly willing to try and help with the code if you want it. I tend to be more motivated when helping for some reason.
Youāve got some good ideas, I suppose since Iām almost cured of sickness, itās about time I straighten out some of the logical mishaps, lol. I do think most of it will stay the same though⦠maybeā¦
Lets seeā¦
Iāve definitely already decided Iām going with the magical/machine hybrid. They are like golems, but more advanced. Golems(in my mind) are basically slaves to whomever created them, very few, if any, actually achieve a higher level. The robos are more of companions to humans rather than slaves. At the time that this group of robos got stranded on stonehearth, humans and robos were almost, if not actually, at equal social standing. And as such they have developed some very human tendancies.
I do like the idea of them being able to be upgraded! Iāll definitely add that to the todo list.
I am going to keep berries and other organic foods as the fuel, there is a reason humans and race cars donāt run on wood ^^ But mostly Iām keeping it because itās what feels right to me. Like an inspiration intuition.
I am definitely going to add robo specific classes.
Depending on what all the classes stonehearth ends up with, I may or may not use many of them. However I believe that many of them(with a few modifications) can be applicable to the robos. Robos donāt NEED clothes or chairs or beds or pillows, but neither do humans. We donāt need to have them, we just like to have them, and so do robos, They are very human in nature even if they look very different (kind of like #5 from Short Circuit). Remember, up until the crash they lived side by side helping humans. So while they may not need to knit, or saw wood, or shepard sheep, they like to because itās similar to what they did with the humans.
For attributes I tried to pick stuff that seemed similar to the original stonehearth, but would make sense for a robot.
Body is how tough humans are, which is what a hull does for a robot. The mind, or brain is how a person thinks, how much info they can store or handle at once, which would relate to circuits in a robot. And Spirit⦠spirit was a tough one, I chose software because it seemed to fit. Humans do have software of a sort. Itās part of why we do what we do when sometimes we donāt know the answer, why do we try to be better? Why do we try to find a higher being/purpose? Why do we believe that there is something beyond the stars? Because itās part of who we are as humans, part of our source code, we canāt see it, or know how it works anymore than a robot could, but we know itās there⦠I guess thatās why software seemed the best choice, if you look at it like that.
So, Hull, Circuits, and Software fit for robots, however, they are no longer robots, are they? They are robos. Iāll have to give the attributes another look⦠especially circuits, but thatās kinda low on the priority list at this point. Itās āgood enoughā for now.
I could use some help with coding, lua is a foreign language to me. Right now though, the development of this mod is very sporadic, since Iām fitting it in between work and social obligations. Iām doing things as I feel like doing them and thatās not always the order in which they should be done. For instance, this evening I started modeling the charging stations, when I should really be reanimating the stone golem worker and meddling with itās code(Iāll probably wait until I have a full day off from work to mess with it =/).
So, if you think you can stand me and my artistic craziness, Iād welcome your help =]
Bonus Material for Everyone: This is how I envision the Gem which floats above the roboās heads. Most of the roboās bodies are made of the same material inside a metal casing to protect it. I made it hastily in windows paint b/c I was inspired by @Xavion⦠somehow it equated to magical gem circuits? I wish I could show it as a .gif with the magical sparks running along the outside, but I need to get some sleep ^^;
P.S. This is what I did today instead of finishing the charging stations, instead of working on the stone golem ^^;
YES SHORT CIRCUIT SOMEBODY ELSE LIKES IT TOO
And also, that gem stuff should be a minable resource or something.
I really liked the first one =D
The second one was⦠very⦠so so, at best =/
My original idea was to have a Gem-Finder class⦠You would give it amount of stone and it would have a [Y]% of finding a gem in it by smashing the stone with a sledge hammer =P
Gems found this way could be polished by a Gem-Polisher to enhance their magical qualities.
Finally, a Gem-Programmer could refine the gem even more producing a Life-Crystal.
I am not sure if I will stick with this method because: A) I donāt yet know how mining and ores will work, and B) In the stock-pile menu there is a icon of a gem/diamond, and Iām not entirely sure what thatās aboutā¦
My envisioning of the charging stations.
Mean, Comfy, Stone, and Metal
Sleeping Robos
I think it was required viewing during the 80sā¦
as for the chargers, looks great! apologies I youāve already mentioned this, but who will be crafting these?
If they are the replacing models for the beds, Iād reckon it would be the carpenter-bot
I havenāt mentioned yet, @Ghost is correct. Carpenter-bot(love the name) will construct the first two. The stonemason will craft the 3rd, and Iām thinking of the smith for the final metal one.
Blooper #1
Iām not sure why⦠but I find this to be super creepy =[
In other news,
An update is on the way! =D
seconded⦠those dead eyes seem to follow me no matter where i moveā¦
hooray!
paging @Avairian, as he was trying to import his new head models, which if looks like youāve pulled off here as wellā¦
Haha thanks Steve. Iāve already figured it out however. Just had to override the male_1.json and make sure the file links were in the proper format. [quote=āchimeforest, post:54, topic:5070ā]
Blooper #1
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Ahhh did someone forget to override/incorrectly override the worker model? ;)[quote=āchimeforest, post:54, topic:5070ā]
but I find this to be super creepy
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Watch yourself Chimeforest, they are evolving! Soon they will be real boys and girls and will take over the universe!
Lol, I didnāt forget. Iām adding stuff one by one so when an error pops up i know what caused it. I just didnāt expect it to look so creepy >. <
Wasnāt there a movie which had that as itās theme? Robots start replacing kids and try to take over?
They took over their bodies!!!
=O That must be it!
Update to v0.03 for r34!
Added: Charging Stations
Added: Berry Descriptions
Also here is a sneak preview of what the weaver will probably look like once it gets added:
Itās knitting needles =P