Summary: (I checked and couldn’t see anything like this posted in the past couple of weeks, unless I’m blind. A VERY distinct possibility. )
So this, I’m pretty sure it’s a bug… It makes no sense to me otherwise. And I know I shouldn’t look a gift horse in the mouth… Buuut…
Carpenters, when they produce a Fine item, it appears to leave the original item in tact.
E.g. Creating a Comfortable Bed. Upon creation of a normal comfortable bed, the mean bed is consumed as required for its construction.
Upon creation of a Fine comfortable bed, the mean bed remains as a reusable free bed.
I believe I’ve had something similar with Lanterns too. Where I’d order the construction of 2 lanterns, and end up with 2 lanterns and 1 Fine Lantern if a fine one was constructed in the process. (I figured it to be by design at the time for the matter of automatic placement in pre-designed buildings) That one made a little more sense to me. But a free bed was a little too weird.
Steps to reproduce:
Have a Carpenter. Record how many mean beds are in your stockpile at the time, and create comfy beds with an experienced carpenter.
Have them craft till they produce a fine item. Note that there may be an extra bed in storage. (eg. Start with 20 beds, end up with 21 or so)
Expected Results: Mean bed to be consumed upon creation of Fine Comfy Bed.
Actual Results: Mean bed not consumed, and resulting in having both an extra Mean Bed and a Fine Comfy Bed in storage.
Notes: Not a terribly game breaking bug, I know, but a bug’s a bug. Bugs require squishing! Or to be eaten by spiders… Either works!
Version Number and Mods in use: Release-524 (x64) ~ No Mods.
Currently, when you craft an item, if your carpenter has a high enough level there is a chance of a fine item being crafted. In the past, when a fine item was crafted, you would not receive the “normal” item. This became an issue if you needed the “normal” variety of the item, and your carpenter had a high mind stat, as you would get fine items too frequently. To fix that, the devs changed it (until a better solution can be reached) such that the fine item is a bonus. If you craft an item, and would have gotten a fine item, now you get both the normal item and the fine item. It only costs you one item’s worth of ingredients, however.
Are you suggesting that a single mean bed is not consumed when crafting comfy beds and receiving a fine comfy bed in addition to the normal one, or that 2 mean beds are not consumed in this case. The first scenario (one bed in, two out) is expected at the moment. The second scenario (while it might make sense) is not currently expected to happen.
Sorry, no. Your first paragraph seems to hit it spot on.
In short -
Comfy bed - Mean Bed & Cloth consumed in making
Fine Comfy Bed - Cloth consumed only. (Mean Bed remains)
(That’s the simplest way to put it anyway. I imagine it’s actually consuming both a Mean bed and a Cloth, but spitting out both a Fine Comfy Bed and a Mean Bed as the end product)
As far as I can tell, regular comfy beds are made as normal.
It was only the Fine item that had the issue with the mean bed(original item) remaining. I didn’t realise it was set to be by design now. ( I was out of the loop for a good long while, apologies. )
No worries. The fine item “bonus” was implemented until a better solution could be found. Going to mark this as #not_a_bug…but, if you have ideas on a better solution for fine items, please post in the #suggestions category.
Isn’t this a bug? Cause the expected behavior is to consume the crafting ingredients, no matter if it doesn’t or does produces a fine item. She actually wasted no ingredients when she crafted an item that yielded a bonus fine item.
If all I have is one mean bed, and asks for a confy, I will end up with a single confy and no mean beds, cause the mean was used as an ingredient.
(Starts with 1 mean, 0 confy. Ends with 0 mean, 1 confy)
And…, If all I have is one mean bed, and asks for a confy, but the crafter also creates a fine item, I will end up with a single confy AND a fine confy, but NO mean beds, cause it should had being used as an ingredient in the crafting process.
(Starts with 1 mean, 0 confy. Ends with 0 mean, 1 confy and 1 fine confy)
Isn’t how it should work?
The initial report was that you could end up with more comfy beds + fine comfy beds than you had mean beds, which is in fact the case. The report was that if you queued up 20 comfy beds, and had 20 mean beds in your stockpile, you could end up with >20 comfy beds plus fine comfy beds.
[quote=“Wuelfe, post:3, topic:20155”]
Fine Comfy Bed - Cloth consumed only. (Mean Bed remains)
[/quote]if i understood that correctly, you get a comfy bed and a fine comfy bed (as you should), but you also keep the mean bed used to craft those comfy beds, which shouldnt be happening…
Wow, English is really hard right now to explain this…will need @Wuelfe to confirm this, but here is what is expected to happen:
Craft 1 comfy bed - need 1 mean bed and one cloth.
Craft 1 fine comfy bed - impossible, should not happen in game.
Craft 1 comfy bed and 1 fine comfy bed - need 1 mean bed and one cloth.
Is that what you are seeing @Wuelfe? It is not currently possible to get a fine comfy bed without also getting a comfy bed. If 2 cloth are being used when the comfy fine bed is produced alongside the regular fine bed, then that is a bug.
Hmm. English is a terrible language to be sure. I’m trying to piece together where everyone’s coming from and getting completely jumbled idea’s of what’s being said. lol! From what I’m gathering you’re saying you get a Comfy bed and a Fine Comfy bed? I was saying you got the Mean Bed and a Fine Comfy Bed.
Craft 1 Comfy Bed Consumed 1 Bolt of Cloth + 1 Mean Bed Product 1 Comfy Bed
Craft 1 Fine Comfy Bed (As random occurrence) Consumed 1 Bolt of Cloth + 1 Mean Bed Product 1 Fine Comfy Bed + 1 Mean Bed
Personally it would have made more sense to me to return the bolt of cloth, rather than the mean bed.as a way of professionally saving cloth, rather than magicking an entire second bed in to existence. But I’m just crazy like that.
[quote=“Wuelfe, post:9, topic:20155”] Craft 1 Fine Comfy Bed (As random occurrence) Consumed 1 Bolt of Cloth + 1 Mean Bed Product 1 Fine Comfy Bed + 1 Mean Bed
[/quote]as far as i know it should be,
Craft 1 Fine Comfy Bed (As random occurrence) Consumed 1 Bolt of Cloth + 1 Mean Bed Product 1 Fine Comfy Bed + 1 comfy bed
I’m sure that’s what it was doing earlier, giving me extra mean beds. But at this current time the game wants to make me look the fool. It’s working as you were saying now.
Possible that I may have misinterpreted what was going on.
If it does happen again I’ll be sure to scrncap it and post it here.
I guess for now it’d be an unfounded claim, since I have no actual evidence it happened and seem to be unable to reproduce it at this exact moment. It could have just been a one off hitch.
Not a bug then, you just misunderstood how it works. From what you say the carpenter will craft one comfy using the resources then he will craft one fine comfy, using more ingredients.
What really happens is he will craft a single time (not two) and this single craft will use the ingredient only once (not two) and will result in two beds (comfy and fine comfy).
So 1 mean + 1 cloth in, 1 comfy +1 fine comfy out, in a single craft.
Aye, but I was fairly sure it came out with a fine comfy bed and a ‘mean’ bed, instead of a fine comfy bed and a comfy bed. That was the issue that arose in the end.
However, trying to replicate it in the same game didn’t seem to want to work, so yes, either it was a 1 off error, or I completely misconstrued. But I’m fairly certain I ended up with extra mean beds, not extra comfy beds.
@8BitCrab Cheers buddy. I’ll keep my eyes open in case it happens again and let y’all know, with screenshots if I can. (Could’ve been my imagination, or it could be a randomly occurring error, who knows. My guess? It’s probably aliens!)
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