# The Stonehearth PC Building Workshop (Formally "Is this a Good PC for Stonehearth")

**URL:** <https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/the-stonehearth-pc-building-workshop-formally-is-this-a-good-pc-for-stonehearth/3743>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [November 26, 2013, 6:00pm UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/the-stonehearth-pc-building-workshop-formally-is-this-a-good-pc-for-stonehearth/3743 "2013-11-26T18:00:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![EpicDwarf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/discourse.stonehearth.net/epicdwarf/32/44085_2.png) [@EpicDwarf](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/EpicDwarf)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 1:03am UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/the-stonehearth-pc-building-workshop-formally-is-this-a-good-pc-for-stonehearth/3743/41 "2013-11-27T01:03:04Z")

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Wait, when I looked up Kaveri AMD APU in Google Search, it said it was a chip, but you said it was a laptop.

I won’t be needing the desktop as I currently don’t have the space, even though the case looks amazing.

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**Author:** ![Crobo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@Crobo](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/Crobo)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 1:05am UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/the-stonehearth-pc-building-workshop-formally-is-this-a-good-pc-for-stonehearth/3743/42 "2013-11-27T01:05:01Z")

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You’re correct the Kaveri chip is going to be used to build laptops and PCs. I would just wait until then.

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**Author:** ![EpicDwarf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/discourse.stonehearth.net/epicdwarf/32/44085_2.png) [@EpicDwarf](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/EpicDwarf)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 1:26am UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/the-stonehearth-pc-building-workshop-formally-is-this-a-good-pc-for-stonehearth/3743/43 "2013-11-27T01:26:21Z")

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Well, since I want a laptop before around the time the beta of Stonehearth gets released in December, I could eather get the Toshiba Satellight, or I could eather get one of these two Lenovo laptops:

[Lenovo IdeaPad Y510p](http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/ideapad/y-series/y510p/)

[Lenovo Ideapad Y500](http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/ideapad/y-series/y500/)

Which one should I get?

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**Author:** ![Crobo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@Crobo](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/Crobo)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 1:53am UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/the-stonehearth-pc-building-workshop-formally-is-this-a-good-pc-for-stonehearth/3743/44 "2013-11-27T01:53:13Z")

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Both the Lenovo’s are pretty much the same. CPU-wise the Lenovo’s beat the Satellite. GPU wise the Satellite is better as the APU can crossfire with the integrated graphics chip. Personally I would go with the Satellite, but it’s more a matter of what you think is more important.

The CPU comparison only really applies when talking about production. The GPU is more important for gaming and rendering.

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**Author:** ![LordNevs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/discourse.stonehearth.net/lordnevs/32/49675_2.png) [@LordNevs](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/LordNevs)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 2:19am UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/the-stonehearth-pc-building-workshop-formally-is-this-a-good-pc-for-stonehearth/3743/45 "2013-11-27T02:19:31Z")

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> [@Crobo](#):
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> Case- [http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133196](http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133196)

In my experience, the NZXT Source 220 is better. Little bit roomier and it has more ventilation. Also, very easy to do an install in for beginners because of it’s “Screw-less” system.  
Link: [http://goo.gl/O8XmVL](http://goo.gl/O8XmVL)  
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> [@Crobo](#):
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> Mobo- [http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131851](http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131851)

Thats quite a bit for a motherboard, why not just go with something like the MSI B85-G41?  
Link: [http://goo.gl/x5r6Cc](http://goo.gl/x5r6Cc)

> [@Crobo](#):
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> HDD- [http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178340](http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178340)

Again, going to have to disagree. MUCH better deal with the Western Digital Caviar Black.  
Link: [Amazon.com](http://goo.gl/7DQnux)

> [@Crobo](#):
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> Memory- [http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226398](http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226398)

With this, spending 4 bucks more will definitely be worth it. Ripjaws are by-far one of the best types of ram available for gamers.  
Link: [http://goo.gl/IVX1E](http://goo.gl/IVX1E)

Sorry for ripping apart your build there, couldn’t resist \>.\<

Edit: Whoops, didn’t notice that AMD CPU, the MB I listed doesn’t have a compatable port for that.

Edit 2: Here is the link for a different motherboard that will work, about the same price as the same one I listed. [http://goo.gl/ad5qG](http://goo.gl/ad5qG)

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**Author:** ![ManOfRet](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/discourse.stonehearth.net/manofret/32/2502_2.png) [@ManOfRet](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/ManOfRet)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 2:32am UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/the-stonehearth-pc-building-workshop-formally-is-this-a-good-pc-for-stonehearth/3743/46 "2013-11-27T02:32:18Z")

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@EpicDwarf I own a Y500, and use it for all my gaming (and everything else), and I must say this: it runs basically everything I own without a hitch. There are a few exceptions, of course, such as Rome II on High settings, and a few unoptimized Alpha games that are fairly laggy, but for the most part, it’s smooth and works very well. HOWEVER, if you aren’t used to Win8, be prepared, because it comes preloaded with it.

Anyway, I was running the SHGT(Graphics Test) at over 250 fps, so it seems to work pretty well for that…

I would definitely recommend it.

Specs:  
nVidia GeForce GT 750M  
8GB RAM  
2GB DDR3 (I think)  
1TB HDD w/ 5400 rpm  
Intel i7-3630QM at 2.4GHz

Works like a charm for just about anything.

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**Author:** ![Dash](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/discourse.stonehearth.net/dash/32/41559_2.png) [@Dash](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/Dash)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 2:38am UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/the-stonehearth-pc-building-workshop-formally-is-this-a-good-pc-for-stonehearth/3743/47 "2013-11-27T02:38:23Z")

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Guys, seriously, a rock and chisel should be able to run Stonehearth. Don’t worry about it.

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**Author:** ![Crobo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@Crobo](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/Crobo)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 4:07am UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/the-stonehearth-pc-building-workshop-formally-is-this-a-good-pc-for-stonehearth/3743/48 "2013-11-27T04:07:20Z")

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Was a quick build i ripped out in like 5 mins. I personally own the original NZXT Phantom and recommend NZXT cases but I was going for quick and cheap. The reason I chose that motherboard is for an AMD processor and for a 990FX northbridge which is the top of the line northbridge for better handling of memory/gpu/cpu operations. The motherboard you chose does not have the intel equivalent.

AMD equivalent to what you posted here

> **[MSI 970A-G43 AM3+ AMD 970 + SB950 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD...](https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130679)**
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> Buy MSI 970A-G43 AM3+ AMD 970 + SB950 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

Moreover the motherboard I originally posted is pretty damn sweet for overclocking.  
The HDD you posted was a traditional drive the one I posted was hybrid, you’re right there is no comparison the one i posted is much quicker hence the bigger price.

As far as ram is concerned they’re pretty much all the same. My friend uses Ripjaws, I’ve used Avexir and Adata. They all have the same timings and frequency and work the same. So long as the frequency is the same all providers use the same if not extremely similar timings. Not to mention Intel boards lock your frequency to 1333 in the BIOS so unless you’re going overclock it and fix it (which you would need a UEFI enabled motherboard which I presented in my first post) anything above 1333 mhz is moot.

If I really wanted to drop for pricetags I’d go with a top of the line Richland APU. Intel is not where you would find good deals. They’re better CPUs in the very high end but everything else is comparable.

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**Author:** ![Dash](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/discourse.stonehearth.net/dash/32/41559_2.png) [@Dash](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/Dash)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 5:31am UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/the-stonehearth-pc-building-workshop-formally-is-this-a-good-pc-for-stonehearth/3743/49 "2013-11-27T05:31:58Z")

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Running an  
AMD Phenom II 970 Black Edition (3.5Ghz)  
4 GB DDR 1600  
Radeon HD 6870

I sure wish I had built my computer now instead of 2 years ago. Probably could have saved 200+ dollars 😛  
Oh well, it can run everything except Crysis 3 at max (or close enough to max) settings pretty comfortably.

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**Author:** ![EpicDwarf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/discourse.stonehearth.net/epicdwarf/32/44085_2.png) [@EpicDwarf](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/EpicDwarf)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 7:48am UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/the-stonehearth-pc-building-workshop-formally-is-this-a-good-pc-for-stonehearth/3743/50 "2013-11-27T07:48:54Z")

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> [@Dash](#):
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> Guys, seriously, a rock and chisel should be able to run Stonehearth. Don’t worry about it.

Well, my computer can’t run the graphics test, so that must mean something is wrong.

Besides, it’s about time I get a new computer. The PC I am using went obsolete years ago.

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**Author:** ![Alesfatalis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/discourse.stonehearth.net/alesfatalis/32/3023_2.png) [@Alesfatalis](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/Alesfatalis)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 12:43pm UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/the-stonehearth-pc-building-workshop-formally-is-this-a-good-pc-for-stonehearth/3743/51 "2013-11-27T12:43:23Z")

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I can run the Graphic test on my Notebook at work! It is an HP Elitebook 8440p with just Intel HD Graphics running on a i5 CPU 😉

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**Author:** ![Valiance](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/discourse.stonehearth.net/valiance/32/26792_2.png) [@Valiance](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/Valiance)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 2:16pm UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/the-stonehearth-pc-building-workshop-formally-is-this-a-good-pc-for-stonehearth/3743/52 "2013-11-27T14:16:25Z")

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This thread is getting so popular and going so off the topic, that I’m gonna have to rename it.

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**Author:** ![SteveAdamo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/discourse.stonehearth.net/steveadamo/32/13955_2.png) [@SteveAdamo](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/SteveAdamo)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 2:29pm UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/the-stonehearth-pc-building-workshop-formally-is-this-a-good-pc-for-stonehearth/3743/53 "2013-11-27T14:29:18Z")

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> [@Valiance](#):
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> I’m gonna have to rename it

excellent decision… keeps the thread relevant… 👍

but that title… it might break the internetz…

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**Author:** ![Valiance](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/discourse.stonehearth.net/valiance/32/26792_2.png) [@Valiance](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/Valiance)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 3:21pm UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/the-stonehearth-pc-building-workshop-formally-is-this-a-good-pc-for-stonehearth/3743/54 "2013-11-27T15:21:39Z")

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Yeah, I do have to admit it is a really long title. 😉

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**Author:** ![LordNevs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/discourse.stonehearth.net/lordnevs/32/49675_2.png) [@LordNevs](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/LordNevs)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 3:33pm UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/the-stonehearth-pc-building-workshop-formally-is-this-a-good-pc-for-stonehearth/3743/55 "2013-11-27T15:33:04Z")

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> [@Crobo](#):
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> The HDD you posted was a traditional drive the one I posted was hybrid, you’re right there is no comparison the one i posted is much quicker hence the bigger price.

Yeah, I missed the fact that it was a hybrid. My tiny brain only saw the 5400-RPM HDD, and not the fact that it was 5x faster. But whats the difference anyways, right? 5x is hardly anything compared to 1x.

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**Author:** ![Valiance](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/discourse.stonehearth.net/valiance/32/26792_2.png) [@Valiance](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/Valiance)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 3:47pm UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/the-stonehearth-pc-building-workshop-formally-is-this-a-good-pc-for-stonehearth/3743/56 "2013-11-27T15:47:53Z")

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> [@LordNevs](#):
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> 5400-RPM HDD

I’ve got a question: Which is better 7200 RPM or 5400 RPM? 😕 I wanted to do some editing using Premiere Pro, but that requires a 7200 RPM hard drive, and I’m not sure whether or not I’m compatible or exceeding the requirements.

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**Author:** ![NonBritGit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/discourse.stonehearth.net/nonbritgit/32/17385_2.png) [@NonBritGit](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/NonBritGit)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 4:31pm UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/the-stonehearth-pc-building-workshop-formally-is-this-a-good-pc-for-stonehearth/3743/57 "2013-11-27T16:31:00Z")

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I always build my own rigs (since the intel 286 days). Here’s my latest build FWiW:  
[Tower](http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156269)  
[Hard Drive](http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148840)  
[Motherboard](http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131874)  
[Power Supply](http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182278)  
[RAM x 12 gigs](http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428)  
[Chip - AMD](http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113286)  
[Video Card](http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121686)  
[DVD burner](http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204)

Used my existing pair of 25" monitors, keyboard and mouse.

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**Author:** ![Valiance](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/discourse.stonehearth.net/valiance/32/26792_2.png) [@Valiance](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/Valiance)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 4:36pm UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/the-stonehearth-pc-building-workshop-formally-is-this-a-good-pc-for-stonehearth/3743/58 "2013-11-27T16:36:58Z")

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Looks like you weren’t trying to save money. 😄

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**Author:** ![Nentify](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/discourse.stonehearth.net/nentify/32/43584_2.png) [@Nentify](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/Nentify)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 4:37pm UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/the-stonehearth-pc-building-workshop-formally-is-this-a-good-pc-for-stonehearth/3743/59 "2013-11-27T16:37:57Z")

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> [@Valiance](#):
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> I’ve got a question: Which is better 7200 RPM or 5400 RPM?

RPM = rotations per minute. The more RPM, the better - So the 7200 RPM hard disk drive is better in this case.

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**Author:** ![NonBritGit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/discourse.stonehearth.net/nonbritgit/32/17385_2.png) [@NonBritGit](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/NonBritGit)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 4:57pm UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/the-stonehearth-pc-building-workshop-formally-is-this-a-good-pc-for-stonehearth/3743/60 "2013-11-27T16:57:02Z")

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> [@Valiance](#):
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> Looks like you weren’t trying to save money.

haha. My previous build was about 5 years old (and still ran the Stonehearth test just fine), so in the long run…

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