# Stonehearth unplayable lag (Alpha 16 unstable)
**URL:** https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/stonehearth-unplayable-lag-alpha-16-unstable/21756
**Category:** Other Reports
**Tags:** no\_longer\_applicable
**Created:** [April 27, 2016, 9:54am UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/stonehearth-unplayable-lag-alpha-16-unstable/21756 "2016-04-27T09:54:06Z")
**Posts on this page:** 16
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### Author:  [@Cube1](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/Cube1)
#### Post date: [April 27, 2016, 9:54am UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/stonehearth-unplayable-lag-alpha-16-unstable/21756/1 "2016-04-27T09:54:06Z")
The game lags, 5-10 fps
50 fps in alpha 15- 64 bit version
Pc specs
-Ram: 4 gb
-Processor: intel core 2 duo CPU 3.00 GHz
-Graphics card: NVIDIA Geforce 9300 GE
Stonehearth version i was playing: dev build: 2940
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### Author:  [@jomaxro](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/jomaxro)
#### Post date: [April 27, 2016, 7:17pm UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/stonehearth-unplayable-lag-alpha-16-unstable/21756/2 "2016-04-27T19:17:57Z")
Hey @Cube1, could you share a few more details please? For performance related reports, we are going to need to know your system specs (CPU, GPU, RAM), the exact version of Stonehearth you are playing, whether you are playing in 32-bit or 64-bit mode, and when in the game this occurred (at the start, or with how many Hearthlings if later in the game).
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### Author:  [@Relyss](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/Relyss)
#### Post date: [April 27, 2016, 8:16pm UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/stonehearth-unplayable-lag-alpha-16-unstable/21756/3 "2016-04-27T20:16:23Z")
Is it still this rig
> [@Stonehearth Supporting older systems?](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/stonehearth-supporting-older-systems/16649/9):
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> not a very strong system
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> Intel core 2 duo CPU E8400 3.00 ghz4GB ramGraphics card Intel Q45/Q43 Express chipset
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> And its 64 bit
?
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### Author:  [@jomaxro](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/jomaxro)
#### Post date: [April 27, 2016, 9:12pm UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/stonehearth-unplayable-lag-alpha-16-unstable/21756/4 "2016-04-27T21:12:54Z")
Thanks @Relyss, the rest of my questions still apply @Cube1.
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### Author:  [@Cube1](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/Cube1)
#### Post date: [April 28, 2016, 8:43am UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/stonehearth-unplayable-lag-alpha-16-unstable/21756/5 "2016-04-28T08:43:06Z")
50 fps in alpha 15- 64 bit version
Pc specs
-Ram: 4 gb
-Processor: intel core 2 duo CPU 3.00 GHz
-Graphics card: NVIDIA Geforce 9300 GE
Stonehearth version i was playing: dev build: 2940
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### Author:  [@Cube1](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/Cube1)
#### Post date: [May 3, 2016, 11:28am UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/stonehearth-unplayable-lag-alpha-16-unstable/21756/6 "2016-05-03T11:28:15Z")
Any news on this? 😟
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### Author:  [@Albert](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/Albert)
#### Post date: [May 3, 2016, 5:51pm UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/stonehearth-unplayable-lag-alpha-16-unstable/21756/7 "2016-05-03T17:51:04Z")
That system is pretty minimum spec, but you said you were getting 50 fps in Alpha 15?
If you post the stonehearth.log file, I can take a look and see if anything stands out.
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### Author:  [@Albert](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/Albert)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2016, 4:45pm UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/stonehearth-unplayable-lag-alpha-16-unstable/21756/8 "2016-05-04T16:45:42Z")
@Cube1 - Thanks for sending the log. The graphics driver looks a bit nonstandard and has no version number. It also looks like it was designed for an old version of OpenGL.
Can you try updating the drivers from here?:
[http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us](http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us)
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### Author:  [@Cube1](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/Cube1)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2016, 7:08pm UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/stonehearth-unplayable-lag-alpha-16-unstable/21756/9 "2016-05-04T19:08:57Z")
It says that it is already up to date.
Version: 341.95
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### Author:  [@Banto](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/Banto)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2016, 7:14pm UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/stonehearth-unplayable-lag-alpha-16-unstable/21756/10 "2016-05-04T19:14:12Z")
Do you get this directly in a new game or an old save?
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### Author:  [@Cube1](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/Cube1)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2016, 7:14pm UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/stonehearth-unplayable-lag-alpha-16-unstable/21756/11 "2016-05-04T19:14:34Z")
Directly in a new game
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### Author:  [@Albert](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/Albert)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2016, 2:04am UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/stonehearth-unplayable-lag-alpha-16-unstable/21756/12 "2016-05-05T02:04:50Z")
> [@Cube1](#):
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> It says that it is already up to date.
> Version: 341.95
Ok, thanks for trying! Tagging for @not_owen_wilson to take a look since we’ve made a lot of renderer changes since alpha 15.
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### Author:  [@Cube1](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/Cube1)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2016, 6:17am UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/stonehearth-unplayable-lag-alpha-16-unstable/21756/13 "2016-05-05T06:17:27Z")
This also happened to me maybe this had something todo with it, So when i started a new alpha 16 world after like 4 minutes of playing and lagging,i decided to quit the game. When i quit the game it gave me an error something about horde3dengine.
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### Author:  [@Albert](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/Albert)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2016, 6:21am UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/stonehearth-unplayable-lag-alpha-16-unstable/21756/14 "2016-05-05T06:21:41Z")
If you get the error again, could you post it? Thanks!
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### Author:  [@not\_owen\_wilson](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/not_owen_wilson)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2016, 4:32pm UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/stonehearth-unplayable-lag-alpha-16-unstable/21756/15 "2016-05-07T16:32:22Z")
Hi @Cube1,
Sorry for the wait; I was away from the office. Can you check the Stonehearth settings (by pressing ‘escape’ in the game and selecting ‘settings’) and verify all your graphics settings are turned down? If nothing there helps, we can try some more advanced tricks. Thanks!
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### Author:  [@Cube1](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/Cube1)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2016, 5:22pm UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/stonehearth-unplayable-lag-alpha-16-unstable/21756/16 "2016-05-09T17:22:48Z")
Everything was turned off