# Hearthling moral is unable to "rise" and the only change in "moral" are drops

**URL:** <https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/hearthling-moral-is-unable-to-rise-and-the-only-change-in-moral-are-drops/36968>\
**Category:** Resolved Reports\
**Tags:** resolved\
**Created:** [July 15, 2018, 12:58am UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/hearthling-moral-is-unable-to-rise-and-the-only-change-in-moral-are-drops/36968 "2018-07-15T00:58:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![Maethendias](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/discourse.stonehearth.net/maethendias/32/56583_2.png) [@Maethendias](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/Maethendias)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 12:58am UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/hearthling-moral-is-unable-to-rise-and-the-only-change-in-moral-are-drops/36968/1 "2018-07-15T00:58:19Z")

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**Summary:**  
despite having well fed, coocked and safe hearthlings living in spacious and beautiful rooms they still are unable to reach even “modest” moral…

the issue here is that there is something preventing the “rise” of moral, which is utterly broken, since drops in moral due to weather and or pain are STILL affecting the moral… rendering the hearthling in question in a constant negative malus

**Steps to reproduce:**

1. play the game
2. give the hearthlings everything they desire
3. watch your hearthlings suffer inexplicable

**Expected Results:**  
moral should change with both negative AND positive influencing

**Actual Results:**  
however the only change which happend were due to negative influences, even when the only change that SHOULD have happend are positive changes… those however are completly ignored by the game, rendering the subject with a constant, unavoidable malus that only increases with time (even when the “tooltip” of the negative effect is expiring the effect on the moral brought by said mali (for example bad weather) is now permanent), while positive changes are completly ignored and static (unlike the now permanent and thus exponentially stacking overtime negative effects  
**Notes:**

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**Version Number and Mods in use:**  
current version no mods  
**System Information:**

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**Author:** ![max99x](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/discourse.stonehearth.net/max99x/32/40094_2.png) [@max99x](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/max99x)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 5:40am UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/hearthling-moral-is-unable-to-rise-and-the-only-change-in-moral-are-drops/36968/2 "2018-07-15T05:40:52Z")

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Got a save?

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**Author:** ![Maethendias](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/discourse.stonehearth.net/maethendias/32/56583_2.png) [@Maethendias](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/Maethendias)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 7:05am UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/hearthling-moral-is-unable-to-rise-and-the-only-change-in-moral-are-drops/36968/3 "2018-07-15T07:05:06Z")

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which one is the acutal save file-… the folder looks like this:

…metadata.json  
…screenshot.png  
…server\_metadata.json  
…server\_state.bin  
its probably server state isnt it

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**Author:** ![max99x](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/discourse.stonehearth.net/max99x/32/40094_2.png) [@max99x](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/max99x)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 7:06am UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/hearthling-moral-is-unable-to-rise-and-the-only-change-in-moral-are-drops/36968/4 "2018-07-15T07:06:52Z")

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Zip the whole folder.

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**Author:** ![Maethendias](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/discourse.stonehearth.net/maethendias/32/56583_2.png) [@Maethendias](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/Maethendias)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 7:12am UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/hearthling-moral-is-unable-to-rise-and-the-only-change-in-moral-are-drops/36968/5 "2018-07-15T07:12:10Z")

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using filedroper  
the normal link: [http://www.filedropper.com/savegamestonehearth](http://www.filedropper.com/savegamestonehearth)

the other link if the first doesnt work here: [![](http://www.filedropper.com/download_button.png)](http://www.filedropper.com/savegamestonehearth)  
\<div style=font-size:9px;font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;width:127px;font-color:#44a854;\> [file storage](http://www.filedropper.com)

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**Author:** ![Maethendias](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/discourse.stonehearth.net/maethendias/32/56583_2.png) [@Maethendias](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/Maethendias)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 7:14am UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/hearthling-moral-is-unable-to-rise-and-the-only-change-in-moral-are-drops/36968/6 "2018-07-15T07:14:39Z")

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hm would you look at that… reloading solves this issue… still

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**Author:** ![Maethendias](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/discourse.stonehearth.net/maethendias/32/56583_2.png) [@Maethendias](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/u/Maethendias)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 10:47am UTC](https://discourse.stonehearth.net/t/hearthling-moral-is-unable-to-rise-and-the-only-change-in-moral-are-drops/36968/7 "2018-07-15T10:47:26Z")

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on a sidenote, the issue happend with another playthrough